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<description>It&apos;s another one of those days ... I think I have too many of them. Our morning was spent simply trying to get the &apos;daily&apos; chores done. They were done yesterday, so how did they get so out of control...</description>
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<title>By Shari</title>
<description>No advice on the chores thing. I just said to myself this morning that I&apos;m tired of doing all the work around the house. (yes, I talk to myself out loud)  But I did manage to get them (my older two) into action when I came in from running my errands in a bad mood. I hate having to be grumpy to get a response. 

The youth thing is hard. We &quot;do&quot; youth group, so this isn&apos;t coming from someone who steers away from them altogether. You may want to pick and chose the activities. It may seem hard at first, but in looking back this is something I wish we had done more. You really don&apos;t have to acept the whole package. One thing I find lacking is the youth groups lack of helping out in the church in general. If yours offers any opportunities to minister, let her do that. Sunday school is usually better than Wed. night service. And being in a leadership position within the group usually puts them closer to the youth pastors and, in theory, closer to more mature examples. Those are just some thoughts. I hope you&apos;re able to wade through this. </description>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No advice on the chores thing. I just said to myself this morning that I'm tired of doing all the work around the house. (yes, I talk to myself out loud)  But I did manage to get them (my older two) into action when I came in from running my errands in a bad mood. I hate having to be grumpy to get a response. </p>

<p>The youth thing is hard. We "do" youth group, so this isn't coming from someone who steers away from them altogether. You may want to pick and chose the activities. It may seem hard at first, but in looking back this is something I wish we had done more. You really don't have to acept the whole package. One thing I find lacking is the youth groups lack of helping out in the church in general. If yours offers any opportunities to minister, let her do that. Sunday school is usually better than Wed. night service. And being in a leadership position within the group usually puts them closer to the youth pastors and, in theory, closer to more mature examples. Those are just some thoughts. I hope you're able to wade through this. </p>]]></content:encoded>
<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:09:06 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>By Barbie</title>
<description>Kim - - - I love you so much.  You know, I read your blog because it makes me feel better to know there is someone else going through the same sludge that I do.  And we look to the same God Who lifts our heads and makes us know that even though we feel this way, it won&apos;t last forever.  

I so know what you mean about youth -- too bad F1 wasn&apos;t a girl or Iliacat wasn&apos;t a boy.  They could be great friends and do that growing into adulthood thing together.  We&apos;ve gone to a different church now since we bought the new house and it is so very small - no youth group to speak of.  I like it this way.  F1 sits in on the big service with me and isn&apos;t expected to go elsewhere.  I think that that is where so many &quot;youth groups&quot; go wrong - they allow the youth to still be treated like children (even expect them to behave worse that how we would allow our six year olds to behave) and don&apos;t work at teaching them how to be mature adults.  

Call me.  I&apos;m back at the new house now - maybe you guys could drive up here one day (how&apos;s Friday???) and the kids could all play in my big yard and you could chill out in my easy chair.  CALL ME!!!! (or email...that would work too) :)</description>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim - - - I love you so much.  You know, I read your blog because it makes me feel better to know there is someone else going through the same sludge that I do.  And we look to the same God Who lifts our heads and makes us know that even though we feel this way, it won't last forever.  </p>

<p>I so know what you mean about youth -- too bad F1 wasn't a girl or Iliacat wasn't a boy.  They could be great friends and do that growing into adulthood thing together.  We've gone to a different church now since we bought the new house and it is so very small - no youth group to speak of.  I like it this way.  F1 sits in on the big service with me and isn't expected to go elsewhere.  I think that that is where so many "youth groups" go wrong - they allow the youth to still be treated like children (even expect them to behave worse that how we would allow our six year olds to behave) and don't work at teaching them how to be mature adults.  </p>

<p>Call me.  I'm back at the new house now - maybe you guys could drive up here one day (how's Friday???) and the kids could all play in my big yard and you could chill out in my easy chair.  CALL ME!!!! (or email...that would work too) :)</p>]]></content:encoded>
<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:11:47 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>By C.C. aka LorelaiCC</title>
<description>We&apos;re dealing with chore issues with our 8yo dd too.  We&apos;re trying something new starting this week.  She has a chart for the week.  Must bring it to us to get each chore checked off.  If she doesn&apos;t do it well or doesn&apos;t do something she is told to do, she loses $0.25 of allowance for each time.  After 8 times in a week, she starts losing 30 minutes of tv or computer time.  It&apos;s working so far.</description>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're dealing with chore issues with our 8yo dd too.  We're trying something new starting this week.  She has a chart for the week.  Must bring it to us to get each chore checked off.  If she doesn't do it well or doesn't do something she is told to do, she loses $0.25 of allowance for each time.  After 8 times in a week, she starts losing 30 minutes of tv or computer time.  It's working so far.</p>]]></content:encoded>
<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:53:56 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>By karen</title>
<description>We&apos;ve just had to rededicate ourselves to the work issue too.   Our children were doing their jobs on time but complaining about it.   So we sat them down again and reminded them of how they are supposed to work.  Now I&apos;m coming down hard on them until they get back to where they were before.   So far, one child has 10 minutes of computer time, one has 5 and two have none.   I guess you need to find something that really hurts to get the point across.</description>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We've just had to rededicate ourselves to the work issue too.   Our children were doing their jobs on time but complaining about it.   So we sat them down again and reminded them of how they are supposed to work.  Now I'm coming down hard on them until they get back to where they were before.   So far, one child has 10 minutes of computer time, one has 5 and two have none.   I guess you need to find something that really hurts to get the point across.</p>]]></content:encoded>
<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:40:51 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>By Robin</title>
<description>(((Kim))) You have not been far from my thoughts all day today.  I am praying, thinking, praying some more.  Hugs, Robin</description>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(((Kim))) You have not been far from my thoughts all day today.  I am praying, thinking, praying some more.  Hugs, Robin</p>]]></content:encoded>
<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:52:04 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>By Robin</title>
<description>P.S.  I wish we lived closer because we have a few in the same age rage. :)  Hugs, Robin</description>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  I wish we lived closer because we have a few in the same age rage. :)  Hugs, Robin</p>]]></content:encoded>
<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:54:21 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>By Peggy</title>
<description>You mean on some days your house has a clean, done feel? Man, I&apos;m so jealous! 

During the school year I do post chores to be done before and after each mealtime. If you don&apos;t get your before meal chores done, no meal. If you don&apos;t get your after meal chores done, no playtime. But during the summer, I just post what has to get done that day and a deadline time and they do it when they want. As long as it gets done it&apos;s all good.

Quiet time when you&apos;re pregnant, now that&apos;s non-negotiable. Is there a Blair around that you can hire to keep peace for your nap each day? Lots of Christian, homeschooled teen girls would be interested in a two-hour job each week day.

I&apos;m where you are with the youth thing. In our big church, youth camp is required. You can&apos;t even be a church member if you don&apos;t send your kids to camp. I will NOT. I can&apos;t be there to personally supervise, so the kids don&apos;t go. Period. The kids have their &quot;section&quot; in the sanctuary where they all sit together - right in the front, which is good and bad. And most of the activities are just hangouts. Those activities that focus on serving others instead of entertaining self, man, we&apos;re there.</description>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean on some days your house has a clean, done feel? Man, I'm so jealous! </p>

<p>During the school year I do post chores to be done before and after each mealtime. If you don't get your before meal chores done, no meal. If you don't get your after meal chores done, no playtime. But during the summer, I just post what has to get done that day and a deadline time and they do it when they want. As long as it gets done it's all good.</p>

<p>Quiet time when you're pregnant, now that's non-negotiable. Is there a Blair around that you can hire to keep peace for your nap each day? Lots of Christian, homeschooled teen girls would be interested in a two-hour job each week day.</p>

<p>I'm where you are with the youth thing. In our big church, youth camp is required. You can't even be a church member if you don't send your kids to camp. I will NOT. I can't be there to personally supervise, so the kids don't go. Period. The kids have their "section" in the sanctuary where they all sit together - right in the front, which is good and bad. And most of the activities are just hangouts. Those activities that focus on serving others instead of entertaining self, man, we're there.</p>]]></content:encoded>
<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:31:25 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>By Linda</title>
<description>Crying and making slippery mud underneath?  How beautifully poetic.  Really.

Ah, the teen years.  Hope other moms with teenage daughters can give you some good advice and support.  I don&apos;t have a clue!</description>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crying and making slippery mud underneath?  How beautifully poetic.  Really.</p>

<p>Ah, the teen years.  Hope other moms with teenage daughters can give you some good advice and support.  I don't have a clue!</p>]]></content:encoded>
<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:31:41 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>By Terra</title>
<description>Hi Kim, you are so real to me, it&apos;s amazing.
I&apos;ve tagged you at my blog. Come check it out. I hope it brings out the writer in you!
HUGS
Terra</description>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kim, you are so real to me, it's amazing.<br />
I've tagged you at my blog. Come check it out. I hope it brings out the writer in you!<br />
HUGS<br />
Terra</p>]]></content:encoded>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:01:09 -0500</pubDate>
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